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		<title>Comment on JsTestDriver First Impressions by Joerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,
I found this site after searching for a solution how to use JsTestDriver with prototype.js. I tested the approach to inject the prototype file at each test file but without success in my case. Don&#039;t ask why but it looks like the injection was performed to late to init the tests proper.

Later I found this way to hack prototype and enable it for JsTestDriver: http://code.google.com/p/js-test-driver/issues/detail?id=32#c12
Looks like the JSON part is a problem right now. I&#039;m not using the fix which is also mentioned in this thread. I just add a fix.js file in the conf file and that&#039;s it.

Maybe this will help someone later facing the same problem I did. 
By the way: I&#039;m using the eclipse plugin of JsTestDriver.

Cheers, Joerg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,<br />
I found this site after searching for a solution how to use JsTestDriver with prototype.js. I tested the approach to inject the prototype file at each test file but without success in my case. Don&#8217;t ask why but it looks like the injection was performed to late to init the tests proper.</p>
<p>Later I found this way to hack prototype and enable it for JsTestDriver: <a href="http://code.google.com/p/js-test-driver/issues/detail?id=32#c12" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/js-test-driver/issues/detail?id=32#c12</a><br />
Looks like the JSON part is a problem right now. I&#8217;m not using the fix which is also mentioned in this thread. I just add a fix.js file in the conf file and that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>Maybe this will help someone later facing the same problem I did.<br />
By the way: I&#8217;m using the eclipse plugin of JsTestDriver.</p>
<p>Cheers, Joerg</p>
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		<title>Comment on When Decoupling Goes Bad by sirfwalgman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sirfwalgman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am no expert.. just a programming schlub like you.. but I agree with you. I think a lot of solutions tend to be over architected just so some guy can say look how cool I am or something. Some of these guys tend to be the worst people for real life projects and never actually get anything real done. I think it is a real problem in the industry these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no expert.. just a programming schlub like you.. but I agree with you. I think a lot of solutions tend to be over architected just so some guy can say look how cool I am or something. Some of these guys tend to be the worst people for real life projects and never actually get anything real done. I think it is a real problem in the industry these days.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Give Me An Assertion Vasily.  One Assertion Only, Please by Omer Rauchwerger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omer Rauchwerger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 12:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! I&#039;ve actually written an NUnit addin to help with this.
What do you think about it as a solution? 

http://www.rauchy.net/oapt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I&#8217;ve actually written an NUnit addin to help with this.<br />
What do you think about it as a solution? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rauchy.net/oapt" rel="nofollow">http://www.rauchy.net/oapt</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on State and Identity by Niklaus Wirth's Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niklaus Wirth's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 15:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-160&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@polypus74 &lt;/a&gt; 

That&#039;s kind of the solution I was slowly coming around to so it helps to hear someone else say that.  I&#039;m writing smaller functions and more of them, trying to utilize the sequence library as much as possible.  When I do that, the programs sort of write themselves, as much as they can based on my extremely novice ability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-160" rel="nofollow">@polypus74 </a> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s kind of the solution I was slowly coming around to so it helps to hear someone else say that.  I&#8217;m writing smaller functions and more of them, trying to utilize the sequence library as much as possible.  When I do that, the programs sort of write themselves, as much as they can based on my extremely novice ability.</p>
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		<title>Comment on State and Identity by polypus74</title>
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		<dc:creator>polypus74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 20:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>been there. a word of advice: don&#039;t think so much, and just write some programs. you are stepping into a world that is a lot simpler than the one you are coming from, so it feels a bit strange and you are wondering what you should be doing. where&#039;s the all the ceremony? how do i structure my programs?

it&#039;s functional programming, so just write functions and don&#039;t worry so much about modeling what the world *is*, and think more about what the world *does*. start with your main function and work from there. chances are you won&#039;t even have to touch the concurrency primitives for most tasks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>been there. a word of advice: don&#8217;t think so much, and just write some programs. you are stepping into a world that is a lot simpler than the one you are coming from, so it feels a bit strange and you are wondering what you should be doing. where&#8217;s the all the ceremony? how do i structure my programs?</p>
<p>it&#8217;s functional programming, so just write functions and don&#8217;t worry so much about modeling what the world *is*, and think more about what the world *does*. start with your main function and work from there. chances are you won&#8217;t even have to touch the concurrency primitives for most tasks.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Wil Bloodworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 16:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brett!  Very nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brett!  Very nice.</p>
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		<dc:creator>More J.Crew Love. &#171; JB Styles.com</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Writing Software To Show My Mom by Latish Sehgal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latish Sehgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds familiar :). I think most programmers are distracted by shiny new things easily. And isn&#039;t that the way it should be? I mean I would be wary of working with a programmer who is not excited by new and better framerorks, platforms... 
I think one of the problems (bigger than feedback IMO) we face in personal projects is that there are no deadlines. In our corporate jobs, the deadline to deliver the software is always yesterday, and forces us to concentrate and deliver. Your timeline for a year might be too relaxed. Can&#039;t you practise the Agile/Iterative methodologies that you do at work in your personal projects and ship something in 2 months? This way, if you are still motivated after that, you keep on working on it. If you find something better to do, you take a break and move on to a new one, and reevaluate/revisit this in the future. This might also be the right time to get some feedback. 
As Derek Sivers has pointed out, execution is of utmost importance (http://sivers.org/multiply).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds familiar <img src='http://mentalpandiculation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I think most programmers are distracted by shiny new things easily. And isn&#8217;t that the way it should be? I mean I would be wary of working with a programmer who is not excited by new and better framerorks, platforms&#8230;<br />
I think one of the problems (bigger than feedback IMO) we face in personal projects is that there are no deadlines. In our corporate jobs, the deadline to deliver the software is always yesterday, and forces us to concentrate and deliver. Your timeline for a year might be too relaxed. Can&#8217;t you practise the Agile/Iterative methodologies that you do at work in your personal projects and ship something in 2 months? This way, if you are still motivated after that, you keep on working on it. If you find something better to do, you take a break and move on to a new one, and reevaluate/revisit this in the future. This might also be the right time to get some feedback.<br />
As Derek Sivers has pointed out, execution is of utmost importance (<a href="http://sivers.org/multiply" rel="nofollow">http://sivers.org/multiply</a>).</p>
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		<title>Comment on JsTestDriver First Impressions by Niklaus Wirth's Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niklaus Wirth's Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Darren,

I ended up not mocking anything out and instead just including dependencies in the script file containing my tests.  So for example, in tests where Prototype.js is required, I just add the following line to the top of my test script file:

&lt;pre name=&quot;code&quot; class=&quot;jscript&quot;&gt;document.write(&#039;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; src=&quot;path_to_prototype.js&quot;&gt;&lt;/script&gt;&#039;);&lt;/pre&gt;

That seems to work currently though I haven&#039;t been spending too much time with JsTestDriver lately and am just now getting back into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darren,</p>
<p>I ended up not mocking anything out and instead just including dependencies in the script file containing my tests.  So for example, in tests where Prototype.js is required, I just add the following line to the top of my test script file:</p>
<pre name="code" class="jscript">document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="path_to_prototype.js"></script>');</pre>
<p>That seems to work currently though I haven&#8217;t been spending too much time with JsTestDriver lately and am just now getting back into it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on JsTestDriver First Impressions by Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#comment-body-137&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-137&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Darren&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
                
                
       
       
          Hi,
Have you managed to mock up some  Prototype.js or jQuery dependencies y?
I see JsTestDriver-1.2.1-src.jar  came out Feb 27th, has that sorted out a few gotchas you encountered?
          &lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

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<strong><a href="#comment-137" rel="nofollow">Darren</a> :</strong></p>
<p>          Hi,<br />
Have you managed to mock up some  Prototype.js or jQuery dependencies y?<br />
I see JsTestDriver-1.2.1-src.jar  came out Feb 27th, has that sorted out a few gotchas you encountered?<br />
          <a></a></p>
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